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Master pump control software bug

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    Robert Tomek

    That's a good point. I'm using the delay for a slow closing valve so the settings for extra time before/after each program makes sense, but even in my case the extra few seconds before/after really should be per zone to avoid unnecessary on/off cycles during short delays.

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    The delay between zones was designed exactly for this kind of behavior, to build pressure when using a pump so the pump must be on. Can you tell me the reason that you use delay between zones ? I guess it's not as a SOAK time which is a separate setting.

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    jack

    The well I have needs time to replenish the water source after each zone fires. The delay is used to allow this to take place. Pressure isn’t the issue, it’s the volume of water available.

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    jack

    Ps. There is no external tank with my system.

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    I understand, the well needs time to naturally replenish itself. The delay between zones was designed to allow filling a tank with water. I can't think of a nice solution beside the obvious one to create 1 program per zone.

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    jack

    So you created the software assuming everyone had a tank to fill? That makes no sense. You already have that functionality in the post “zone pump on” setting. Why duplicate it and restrict functionality for others who don’t use a tank?

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    I'm not sure what post are you referring. The delay between zones was designed to allow tank filling/pressure building between zones, the pre/post Master Valve setting is to fill before and after a program/cycle run. I'm not sure about the duplicate setting. I'm not sure, at this moment, how can we satisfy both cases with an easy to understand setting.

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    jack

    Post meaning "after", not a thread post.

     

    If you put the pre/post Master Valve setting on the zone as an option,  instead of the program, you wouldn't need to run the pump during the delay phase of a program

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    AlexBzzBR

    Hi,

    Is there any chance to have this implemented ? ( A way to stop the main valve during the zone delays ? ) 

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    We have 4 requests logged for Master Valve being linked to zone settings. Since it's a pretty low requested feature is not in the priority list, at least for the next 2 updates.

    We have discussed this, and there are multiple benefits on having master valve setting on a per zone configuration but on the other hand the UI team thinks that this will confuse users and make it prone to errors. So it's more a UI thing now to get it passed to development list than other reasons.

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    AlexBzzBR (Edited )

    Hi Nicholas,

    Thank You for the response.

    To avoid confusion on the UI, you can create a new working mode: Indexing Valve.  When this is selected in the zone settings, the UI will enable the functionality to link the Master Valve/Pump with the zones.

    This way the product will have 3 working modes :

    1) Default ( Zone 1 )

    2) Pump ( Master Valve )

    3) Index Valve ( NEW!!!)

    Using this approach, the product will be more attractive to additional users, specially here in Florida, where you have most of the lawn sprinklers systems based on Index Valves  than Solenoid Valves.  You probably don't have this functionality in demand because today who has a system based on Index Valve will not buy the Rain Machine. If you take a look on Rachio 3, you will see they support the Index Valves mode and pause the pump during the zone delay.

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    Joseph Ring

    Hello, Consider this another request for adding a button to delay the Pump/Master Valve when a delay between zones is enabled. You can default it to leave the pump on between for those with tanks to fill, but there are quite a few systems that I have put in that could use this feature. I have put booster pumps on some home systems that should not run during a delay. Also, valves often get stuck when constant pressure is applied to them and then you get two zones running with low pressure and brown spots in the customer's lawn.

     

    Thus, to decrease any confusion, add a button to deactivate the pump/master valve during delay should be all that's needed.

     

    Thank You.

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