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Allow more than one zone to operate at the same time.

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    Andrei

    Right now the Rainmamachine shares the same fuse for MasterValve and the rest of the zones. As a result, you can operate 2 valves at the same time (master valve + 1 zone). If the valves are low power valves you can possible run 3 valves at the same time (mastervalve + 2 zones) but you will be pushing your luck. 

    Future versions of Rainmachine will have a dual fuse system (one fuse for master valve + one fuse for valves) so that you can use two valves, possibly 3 valves at the same time.  The upcoming RainMachine Mini-8 will have a dual fuse system. We are planing to release the new mini-8 in early 2017.

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    Wayne Downer

    I would like to see zones declarable as low-power / simultaneously active...  to allow the use of zones to control outdoor lighting and water features via relays / solid-state-relays that keep the power draw within that of a "standard" MasterValve plus a zone (when a MasterValve is not required).  Being able to program outdoor lighting and water features automatically (or manually on demand) would be awesome...  and a "control-voltage to AC voltage relay (physical or solid-state)" product offering could be a nice market expansion opportunity (but a maximum aggregate zone load spec, would be sufficient).

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    Scott Warren

    I also would like to be able to link or group zones. I am actually not using the outputs anyway so the power / fuse issue isn't an issue.

    I am using the API to check the status then turning on "Remote" relays on particle devices. Sounds complicated but even if you know nothing about API's you can use IFTTT to turn on a relay that is also IFTTT'd that will respond. Like Henry I am using a pump and need to cycle different zones at once depending on what is happening - vineyard / olives and lots of zones. At the moment I have to do all the zone work on the Particle side as Rain Machine doesn't support it.

    Also if a zone is "on" then I turn the pump on. If all zones are off I turn the pump off. What is even cooler is that there is a mix of cellular and Wifi devices spread out over 100 acres and the rain machine is actually in my office during testing / developing 130kms away from where the "zones" are

     

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    Bh

    Does the software support this as yet.?  For those of us that do not use a master valve, it would be great to run multiple, drip runs simultaneously for instance. 

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    Wredejd

    I too need to group two zones. My pump is more than capable of running two zones in normal use. But I also need the flexibility to run the zones separate if say my boat is temporarily parked in one of the zones and I don't want get the iron water on it, but want the other zone to run normal through program control. My understanding from the above is my mini-8 gen 2 hardware should support this now. So is software support coming soon for grouping zones in our programs ? Thanks

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    James Macdonald

    I also would love to be able to activate more than one valve at a time. I have 3 separate valve locations around house.

    At the moment because it runs in sequence it takes all morning to go through all zones so I've had to adjust days/time to keep watering to the early hours.

     

    Cheers

     

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    Bh

    I had received a response about the 12 and 16 having limited amperage to drive multiple valves.  But tech support indicated that 2 simultaneous would not be an issue.  Possibly 3 if no master valve was used.

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    Chris Edwards (Edited )

    Are there instructions on how to enable this? I would like to have 2-3 zones on at the same time. I have a rain machine mini 8 gen 2.

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    Chris Edwards

    Are you guys just wiring the different valves so they all get turned on at once? I would prefer if the rainbird could just open multiple valves at the same time.

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    Wayne Downer

    No...  the "ask" is to be able to programmatically turn on more than one zone (assuming one valve per zone).  IF you want multiple valves active in a single zone, you could use an external relay (with a load no greater than a single valve) and a power module capable of driving the multiple valves...

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    Chris Edwards

    That's what I thought. Upvoted!

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    Kevin Hargrove

    Any word on how to have 2 zones operate at the same time.  I just purchase a Mini-8 and would like to use the feature.

     

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    Scott West

    I also need to have more than one zone of the Rainmachine turned on at a time or at least a negative delay (-15 to -30 seconds) for the next zone turn on.  Is the RainMachine Mini-8 Gen 2 the new dual fuse unit?  Will the HD's be changed to dual fuses?  When will firmware / software follow that will allow more than one zone at a time, and will it only be the MasterValve plus one zone, or any two zones?  Thanks.

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    Wayne Downer

    When Andrei said "Right now the Rainmamachine shares the same fuse for MasterValve and the rest of the zones. As a result, you can operate 2 valves at the same time (master valve + 1 zone)..."  I took this to mean that the development team was going to enable (at least) two simultaneous zones.  But there's no indication that anything is happening.  Do we need to get more up-votes to get it moving?  Andrei: can you tell us what the status is?

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    Nicholas

    This has been constantly pushed back as a priority because it's considered dangerous to controller operation and irrigation system. We now  have Load and Short detection in software/valve driver which sends notifications and can stop watering on overload. But the actual feature to start multiple valves is not enabled. We must gather more data from the overload reports so we can have a better picture what valves and mode of operation customers are using.

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    Wayne Downer

    I understand the concern.  It's awesome that you're been working it, and may have a solution that transcends "a user's belief" that the aggregate load of multiple simultaneous zones enabled does not exceed that of two "standard valve solenoids".  If you need a beta volunteer, let me know.  You guys are great!  Thanks for the update Nicholas!

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    Eric

    I have the same issues as the original poster. My 2HP pump can satisfy multiple zones. Zone 1 is assigned to the pump relay. Rain Machine would be perfect if it could run 2 additional zones simultaneously. This would allow for greater pump efficiency (electricity savings!) and shorter overall run time. My front yard is sun exposed and requires longer run time but both of my side yard zones are shaded. The pump can easily run the front yard with one side yard zone, having the ability to stagger the side yards into the front yard schedule would be great. My valves are quite efficient and require 350 mA inrush current and, 190 mA holding current, the relay requires 125mA. If the valve triggers were staggered by a few seconds the requirements to run all 3 would be quite low. I have the Mini-8 Gen 2 and would be happy to beta test this feature if it is something you are considering.

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    Michael

    The same to me. It would be a nice to have!
    The well pump is powerful and this allow me to run several sprinkler at the same time. But the problem ist the drip irrigation. That's waste of pump power. In the moment, all outputs of my HD16 lead to 24V relays and I can run the drip irrigation simoutanously to a lawn irrigation channel, but no longer beyond that.
    But to the RM-team: Great work! The Rainmachine makes already a good job! Thanks!

     

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    Michael

    may sound silly, any chance of a newer version of the board being able to read the wattage each solenoid is using and then being able to adjust it's power budget, be nice to get a commercial version that takes a 2 amp input for example

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