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    Ed111

    I'm interested in a wired solution as well.  Please implement drivers for existing Gen. 2 RM's.

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    DSK9004

    In the meantime, while we wait for an ethernet implementation, is there a better WiFi adapter that I can use inplace of the TP Link adapter that came factory installed on the RainMachine? I'd like to get better range and speed. What other adapters will work?

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    Jim Smith

    In August 2017 I implemented Joe's suggestion solution of using a TP-Link link Adapter (same one as his link to Amazon).  It is now toward the end of October and my experience during the last 3 months is that the setup works very well.  I have not had one network dropout.  Or maybe I should say that I know of and had to take action to fix. 

    The bottom line is that this solution is very reliable, simple and cheap ($12) solution to a weak WiFi signal IF you can get a Ethernet wire to the unit.  And it has stood up to the Texas heat for the last 3 months.  Since the WiFi signal only has to travel 4 inches, I named my network "SmallNet".  I'm happy!

    Having said all of that, of course it would be a much better solution to have a USB to wired Ethernet and leave the WiFi out of the picture completely...

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    Jon Alan

    Can someone please re-post the definitive steps to DIY install a hardwired Ethernet port... I'd rather not replay the entire thread and mess things up....  thanks...

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    With the latest update you just plug the ethernet to usb adapter on the spare port without removing the WIFI from the other port. Disable wifi from Setttings->System->Wifi and reboot.

    It should work with caveats described on first page of this thread.

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    Jon Alan (Edited )

    Thanks @Nicholas...

    Ordered the Linksys device...  appears to be working, a bit unconventional and hacky given there is no native network diagnostic or update capability ..  maybe future firmware releases ???  So what that means is that it won't automatically update firmware ( a bit troublesome but a trade-off having the reliable network connection capability)...   Assume someone has tested that the device can request weather updates ?

     

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    Yes the weather updates should work, also automatic updates. What doesn't work is the updates UI from the device itself. Automatic or updates triggered from mobile will work.

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    Cliflyri

    You can add the "TechRise Ethernet Adapter, USB 2.0 to RJ45 Fast Ethernet LAN Network Adapter" to the list of adapters that work.

    All the known issues in the first post still apply (would be nice to get some of that working).

    The main issue I am having is getting an error when trying to confirm my email address verification so that I can access the device remotely while off the lan.  Any advise?

     

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    Cliflyri

    Thank you Brandon, I got that all working and added another adapter that works to the list "TechRise Ethernet Adapter, USB 2.0 to RJ45 Fast Ethernet LAN Network Adapter".

    The last issue I am having is getting an error when trying to confirm my email address verification so that I can access the device remotely.  

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    Brandon Moyer

    Please email me your email address that you use for Remote Access and I will look into it for you and respond. Brandon@rainmachine.com

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    I think it would be better if you can do the "Remote Access" step while on WIFI, it's a known issue with the Ethernet "hack".

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    Cliflyri

    Thank you Nicholas, Brandon got me set up.

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    Jeff Jeff

    Anyone else dropping cloud connection ?

    I switched to the wired connection via adapter about a month back. Since then my local connection (lan via ip) has been fantastic
    However, twice now I have found my RainMachine offline, blinking. I bet another restart would fix it but it’s clearly not a local connection issue.

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    Brandon Moyer

     

    To help narrow down the issue, you could try port mapping and direct access. This would take the cloud out of the picture. 

    You would only need to forward port 8080 to the RainMachine and then setup Direct access: RainMachine APP > Device List > Menu Icon (3 horizontal lines) > Network Settings > Direct Access

    This is something that is being looked into. 

     

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    Jeff Jeff

    Honestly little concerned opening hole in firewall to expose the rainmachine. Sounds like there might be something going on with connection in rain cloud ?

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    Jeff,

    If you press the blinking wrench icon what error does it tell you ?

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    Jeff Jeff (Edited )

    Thx for asking.
    It says weather data internet connectivity: fail
    Rest says:ok , including WiFi connection even though I have WiFi off.

     

    network tools shows:

    false

    false

    Then fail for all

    down to ssid which shows n/a

    trying update on screen I get message of no internet   

    From within the app I can see and control it fine via local IP    In fact I just sent diag logs from app to your server 

     

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    Updating won't work from Local interface. 

    Did your cloud access issue got solved ? 

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    Jeff Jeff

    no, the fundamental issue of on occasion losing access is not solved.

    so far I just power cycle the rain machine and then it shows back up via cloud

    my local access stays working just fine now that I am using ethernet

     

    I cannot find pattern of when I lose cloud access but has happened a few times now

     

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    Jeff Jeff

    Posting a follow up here. I’ve been rock solid stable since early May with both cloud and local after going to Ethernet.

    However today rain machine went offline (for local and cloud). Was weird, few hours ago I got push notice of rain sensor wet, it’s continued to rain here. Now strange: I got a push notice of rain sensor dry, tried to check rain machine and it was offline. Power cycled and it’s back. I had checked it ealier today so I think it went offline and sent the false rain sensor dry push notice at same time.

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    Gary T. Giesen (Edited )

    Any idea when we might get first-class Ethernet support? (ie. no caveats/missing features)

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    Frandas 123

    WiFi issues are the one negative thing in reviews that's kept me from investing in Rainmachine, if we can get ethernet support officially  - I'm in

     

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    Brandon Moyer

    We have the RainMachine Pro coming out soon, keep an eye out. It will have a built in Ethernet Jack, with complete functionality!

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    Jeff Jeff

    Interesting
    What will be the other upgrades Pro offers ?

    @Gary and Frandas123
    Agreed on WiFi only devices. I will note RainMachine has been great using the usb to Ethernet adaptor. Very stable

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    Brandon Moyer

    I don't want to unveil to much just yet, just know you will be seeing it very soon !

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    Gary T. Giesen

    Looks like the Pro has now been released:

    https://www.rainmachine.com/products/rainmachine-pro.html

    But we have to give up the nice Touch HD interface, so I guess the question still stands:

    Any idea when we might get first-class Ethernet support?

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    Jeff Jeff

    Wonder what else has changed ... wiring layout looks nice, 16 zone is nice, touch screen gone (I don’t care but clearly others may), built in Ethernet (good)...

    Any chance you will out up a comparison page of old vs new, please??

    Also I would suggest filling one with 16 zone wires, Ethernet plug and adding that photo.

    @Gary,
    Understood on your reluctance to use non official Ethernet on the older unit. I will say it plugged right in, one setting on the screen to change (I think) and I’ve found nearly perfectly stable. I did it as a $10 experiment before putting my Rain Machine in the trash. Glad I did since it was super easy and I really like my RM now.

    If only I could figure out the seasonal / predictive watering levels a bit more as they were too aggressive on saving water. Oh and when they get Alexa working better, my dogs still vote for “Alexa, pause the sprinklers for 5 minutes” .. so my dogs can pee.

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    Brandon Moyer

    Gary, the Pro-16 still has a Touch screen, just a little bit smaller the the HD. It even has a new interface. 
    We are still working on making sure the HD-12, interface with a wired connection, this is still a new feature for the most part. 

    Jeff, if you call or email into support we can login to your system with you and recommend some fine tuning adjustments to get it watering correctly. 

    Brandon 
    RainMachine Support

     

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    RainMachine Nicholas

    > Any idea when we might get first-class Ethernet support?

    The only hold out at this moment is that our base OS on HD12/16 (Android) doesn't know anything about Ethernet by default. 

    We are trying to improve this in next updates.

    > Any chance you will out up a comparison page of old vs new, please??

    Jeff Jeff here it is: https://www.rainmachine.com/products/index.html

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    RichardP

    Thanks for the link to the comparison. So, and not to hijack this thread too much, the two functional differences (not counting the local UI) are Flow detection and wired Ethernet. And, for the moment, a very nice discount.  Did I miss something?

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